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притежавам АУДИ 100 2.3 В момента има монтирана обикновенна газова уредба. Може ли да се използва системата при този случай, когато двигателя работи на газ ? Какви предимства и недостатъци има при тази комбинация на горивото?                                                                        Благодаря.
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Здравейте!!! За огромно съжаление водородните системи са крайно не съвместими с обикновените газови уредби от гледна точка на сигурност,затова защото при бедна смес на газта и гръмване ще спукате колекторите директно.Ако имахте газов инжекцион или метанов нямаше да има никакъв проблемза съвместен монтаж.Там икономията е около 25% . Поздрави!!!
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ЗДРАВЕИТЕ.ИМАМ БМВ 318 ТДС КОЛКО ЩЕ МИ СТРУВА ЕДНА УРЕДБА И КОЛКО ЕВЕНТОАЛНО ЩЕ МИ Е ИКОНОМИАТА НА 100 КМ  
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Здравейте относно цената на системата се свържете с най-близкият и удобен за вас дистрибутор в страната.А за икономият очаквайте 1,5-2,5л на 100 км.
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Извинявам се че се намесвам но мисля че автомобили с обикновени газови уредби биха работили прекрасно с вашият продукт но нямам възможност да го докажа като го закупя и монтирам поради известни причини. Имам предвид  МОНОИНЖЕКЦИОНИТЕ.
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Здравейте! Притежавам БМВ 318Is (140к.с.) с ламбда контрол газова уредба и съответно запитването ми е -може ли да се постави генератор на Браунгаз и сътовтно ще има ли полза от него?Какви очаквания да имам? Благодаря предварително !
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  Валентин 102 , може но както са отговорили понеже във всмукателния колектор имаш голямо количество горивовъздушна смес а този двигател е с инжекционно впръскване на бензин  поначало , то той би могъл да гърми както казваме на газ с обикновенна газова уредба , а при теб тя е точно такава но с ламбда контрол на съотношението газ и въздух в колектора.По принцип настройките на ъгъла на предварение ,които задава микропроцесорния блок и динамично променя според количеството въздух засмуквано в двигателя , според неговата скорост на движение в колектора и според оборотите са така зададени от производителя на автомобила , че той да работи с бензин , но във всмукателния колектор да има единственно въздух , а не смес - гориво и въздух като при карбураторните двигатели. Знам , че този мотор на БМВ може да работи и с обикновенна газова уредба и не гърми , стига запалителната система да е изправна...ламбда контрола и този клапан който се поставя на маркуча по  който се подава газта към колектора с ниско налягане е много хубаво нещо , защото ламбда сондата на газ също отчита невярно съотношението гориво - въздух в сместа. Газта изгаря много по добре и по чисто от бензино - въздушната смес и се налага да се постави или емулатор на сигнала на ламбда сондата , сигнал от типа на този който дава тя но от друг източник - електронно устройство или по добрия вариант динамичен ламбда контрол за котвертиран на газ автомобил.Оксиводород можеш да добавиш обаче , като се поставят инжектори за газов инжекцион с малък диаметър и през тях преди да влезе сместта в главата , преди всмукателния клапан се инжектира и добави оксиводород.Така смятам да направя на мой автомобил , за да опитам ще падне ли разхода вследствие на по доброто запалване каквото всъщност представлява тази технологийка с добавяне на оксиводород. Стандартно сместта се пали само от ел. искра на свещтта , но ако се добави този гърмящ газ както още го наричат се вкарва една малка мълнийка вече която се възпламенява от искрата а тя пък пали сместта..доста мощно запалване.Според мен не по отношение на горивото автомобила вече е хибрид , а по отношение на запалването. Между другото , добре е с такава обикновенна газова урудба на този тип двигател да се монтира и стоп клапан на ниското налягане на газта , в България в сервизите в които монтират уредби не поставят такъв. Този клапан затваря маркуча от изпарителя към колектора , когато загасиш мотора и не позволява на газта която е влязла в изпарителя..едно малко количество газ остава винаги , да влезе в колектора и ако тръгнеш да палиш нищо че палиш на бензин до 15-20 минути след като си загасил , да ти гръмне и счупи филтърната кутия , дебитомера за въздух , да изкочат маркучите на отдушника или дори да строши колектора.Когато се добавя оксиводород , старта на електролизера и добавянето му трябва да става винаги след като двигателя е стартиран , с малко закъснение е най добре.Мисля , че цените на тези системи са доста високи..вярно е че и горивата са доста скъпи , но при едно по серийно тяхно производство цената им може да бъде по ниска в пъти.
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Здравейте! Скоро се сдобих се един стар форд транзит -двигател 1.6 карбуратор! Доколкото изчетох ,тия системи добре се понасят от отпростените карбураторни двигатели! Бусчето е добро и мисля да го ползвам за риба ,но си гори доста-10л бензин! Че и повече! Сложих газова и разхода отива към 20 лв 100 км! Газовата си я събирах от тук там и не мога да я регистрирам а не искам да имам ядове с полицайте! Та ако сложа возородна клетка ,мога ли да очаквам разход на бензин под 20лв? И в Стара Загора имате ли представител и къде е? Поздрави!  
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